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About Kindred Media's Oral History Collection

Watch the 90-Minute Overview Presentation of Meet the Wayfinders

Recognizing & Creating Sustainable Strategies for Social & Cultural Change

Watch the 90-Minute Overview Presentation of Meet the Wayfinders

This overview dives into Hamster Wheel Activism versus the Wayfinders' approach to social change, a form of Kindred Activism.

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Watch the Nine Individual Interviews with the Wayfinders

Recognizing & Creating Sustainable Strategies for Social & Cultural Change

Watch the 90-Minute Overview Presentation of Meet the Wayfinders

These individual oral histories were edited and compiled into the full 90 minute conference presentation. Watch the full interviews.

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Recognizing & Creating Sustainable Strategies for Social & Cultural Change

Recognizing & Creating Sustainable Strategies for Social & Cultural Change

Recognizing & Creating Sustainable Strategies for Social & Cultural Change

Learn About Leaving Traditional Hamster Wheel Activism and Embracing Kindred Activism: A Sustainable Strategy for Social Change & Normalizing Wellbeing

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Breastfeeding As A Biological Imperative for Lifelong Wellbeing

Recognizing & Creating Sustainable Strategies for Social & Cultural Change

Recognizing & Creating Sustainable Strategies for Social & Cultural Change

Discover Breastfeeding As One of Nine Components of Our Evolved Nest, Our Evolutionary Pathway to Wellness and Wholebeing

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Meet the Wayfinders

Darcia Narvaez, PhD, Kindred World president, University of Notre Dame, Professor Emerita

Jasha Lyons Echo-Hawk, Indigenous Milk Medicine Week and Indigenous Milk Medicine Collective, Co-Founder

Cecilia Tomori, PhD, Director of Global Health and Community Health, Johns Hopkins University

Breaking Barriers siloed-science of academia and research which doesn’t (can’t) support a whole child wellness model

Cecilia Tomori, PhD, Director of Global Health and Community Health, Johns Hopkins University

Jasha Lyons Echo-Hawk, Indigenous Milk Medicine Week and Indigenous Milk Medicine Collective, Co-Founder

Cecilia Tomori, PhD, Director of Global Health and Community Health, Johns Hopkins University

Breaking formula companies “captured” biomedical field and colonization of populations worldwide

Kimarie Bugg, DNP, FNP-BC, MPH, FAAN, IBCLC, Founder, Reaching Our Sisters Everywhere

Jasha Lyons Echo-Hawk, Indigenous Milk Medicine Week and Indigenous Milk Medicine Collective, Co-Founder

Jasha Lyons Echo-Hawk, Indigenous Milk Medicine Week and Indigenous Milk Medicine Collective, Co-Founder

Breaking barriers in hospital and medical professional culture’s systemic racism

Jasha Lyons Echo-Hawk, Indigenous Milk Medicine Week and Indigenous Milk Medicine Collective, Co-Founder

Jasha Lyons Echo-Hawk, Indigenous Milk Medicine Week and Indigenous Milk Medicine Collective, Co-Founder

Jasha Lyons Echo-Hawk, Indigenous Milk Medicine Week and Indigenous Milk Medicine Collective, Co-Founder

Breaking barriers to Indigenous peoples’ colonization created anti-breastfeeding bias, creating Indigenous-centric breastfeeding narratives and resources

Joan C. Williams, JD, Founder, Center for Worklife Law, University of California at Hastings

Jamie Grumet, TIME cover breastfeeding mother from May 2012, Modern Attachment Parenting, Author

Jamie Grumet, TIME cover breastfeeding mother from May 2012, Modern Attachment Parenting, Author

Breaking barriers in Workplace and gender equity laws

Jamie Grumet, TIME cover breastfeeding mother from May 2012, Modern Attachment Parenting, Author

Jamie Grumet, TIME cover breastfeeding mother from May 2012, Modern Attachment Parenting, Author

Jamie Grumet, TIME cover breastfeeding mother from May 2012, Modern Attachment Parenting, Author

Breaking barriers in mainstream media cultural bias, social media influencer, attachment parenting champion

Wesley Bugg, JD, Reaching Our Brothers Everywhere, ROBE

Jamie Grumet, TIME cover breastfeeding mother from May 2012, Modern Attachment Parenting, Author

Wesley Bugg, JD, Reaching Our Brothers Everywhere, ROBE

Breaking barriers to create inclusion of fathers in breastfeeding and birth advocacy, creating breastfeeding narratives for Black communities 

Cathleen O’Malley, playwright, MilkDrunk

Lisa Reagan, Kindred Media Editor, and Your Wayfinder Guide

Patty Kornwolf, RN-C, Kindred World Founding Director

Breaking barriers in performance arts, using arts for internal and external barrier-breaking

Patty Kornwolf, RN-C, Kindred World Founding Director

Lisa Reagan, Kindred Media Editor, and Your Wayfinder Guide

Patty Kornwolf, RN-C, Kindred World Founding Director

Breaking barriers to creating family support systems in America

Lisa Reagan, Kindred Media Editor, and Your Wayfinder Guide

Lisa Reagan, Kindred Media Editor, and Your Wayfinder Guide

Lisa Reagan, Kindred Media Editor, and Your Wayfinder Guide

Lisa Reagan will guide you through the insights gleaned from these oral histories and through the individual interviews.

Why This Series Was Created: Wayfinding, New Cycle Making, and Kindred Activism

Meet the Wayfinders is an oral history collection of video interviews with nine professionals, parents, and scientists who found ways around breastfeeding advocacy barriers, or just broke them! The series was created at the invitation of La Leche League International in celebration of their 65th Anniversary Conference held October 15-18, 2021. This website presents the series to the public for the first time in celebration of:


World Breastfeeding Week, August 1-7

National Breastfeeding Month, August 1 - 31

Indigenous Milk Medicine Week, August 8 - 14

Black Breastfeeding Week, August 25 - 31


The Meet the Wayfinders Oral History Series includes an overview video, where participants learn the five hallmarks of wayfinder advocacy, aka Kindred Activism, and highlights of the nine interviews. The complete interviews are also available on this website. The Meet the Wayfinders Resource Guide in PDF form lists the many references discussed in the collection by presenter and can be found here.


In Meet the Wayfinders, viewers will discover reasons why cultural change is difficult and how the breastfeeding advocates featured in this oral history collection were successful in breaking, transforming, and maneuvering around barriers in:


  • Breaking through the formula company “captured” biomedical field and colonization of populations worldwide: Cecilia Tomori, PhD, Director of Global Health and Community Health, Johns Hopkins University
  • Breaking through the siloed-science of academia and research which doesn’t (can’t) support a whole child wellness model: Darcia Narvaez, PhD, Professor of Psychology Emerita, University of Notre Dame; Founder, The Evolved Nest
  • Breaking through hospital and medical professional culture’s systemic racism, Kimarie Bugg, DNP, FNP-BC, MPH, FAAN, IBCLC, Founder, Reaching Our Sisters Everywhere
  • Breaking through BIPOC colonization created anti-breastfeeding bias, Kimarie Bugg, DNP, Founder, Reaching Our Sisters Everywhere; Wesley Bugg, JD, Reaching Our Brothers Everywhere; and Jasha Lyons Echo-Hawk, Indigenous Milk Medicine Week and Indigenous Milk Medicine Collective, Co-Founder
  • Breaking through mainstream media cultural bias, Jamie Grumet, TIME cover breastfeeding mother from May 2012
  • Breaking through gender bias to create workplace and gender equity laws, Joan C. Williams, JD, Founder, Center for Worklife Law, University of California at Hastings
  • Breaking through gender bias to inclusion of fathers in breastfeeding and birth advocacy, Wesley Bugg, JD, Reaching Our Brothers Everywhere
  • Breaking through America's social and public policy policy abandonment of families to creating support networks, Patty Kornwolf, RN-C, Kindred World Founding Director
  • Breaking barriers in Theater, Using Performance Arts for internal and external barrier-breaking, Cathleen O’Malley, playwright, MilkDrunk


In this series, the viewer will discover the hallmarks of successful barrier-breaking shared by the wayfinders who answer three questions:


  • When were they first exposed to breastfeeding? 
  • Were they surprised to discover barriers to breastfeeding, particularly in their field? 
  • And how have they overcome, transformed, or moved beyond these barriers?


Through their personal histories, the wayfinders reveal to us a holistic form of breastfeeding advocacy, a strategy that does not wait for external, cultural forces to change and support individual and collective wellness. This new form of activism, that centers childhood and worldview as a sustainable strategy for cultural transformation, is being explored at the Kindred Fellowship Program as Kindred Activism (see more below).


All of our presenters address the opportunities awaiting us in our post-pandemic world and how, with an understanding of the hallmarks of successful barrier-breaking, we too, can answer the call to become a wayfinder, to introduce and integrate a new way forward right where we stand as individuals, and to joyfully gather to build a breastfeeding-friendly culture.


The many resources shared in these oral histories are all captured in the conference PDF here.

In The Meet The Wayfinder Series You Will Learn:

How Can Social Changemaking Become Hamster Wheel Activism?


In a moment, we will meet our Wayfinders, but first, let’s take a look at a few reasons cultural change can be difficult, and why it is easy to stay in a hamster wheel as advocates. We’ll then see how the wayfinders do things differently.


What keeps us in a hamster wheel of advocacy, feeling like we’re running, moving and shaking, but then not getting anywhere? 


First, our modern Dominator Culture’s prominent feature, as Darcia Narvaez shows us, is a Cycle of Competitive Detachment. Our current culture does not value listening, relational skills, or inner awareness which are necessary to support and appreciate diversity, inclusion, sustainable living, or a whole child wellness model.


Second, our current culture values Convergent Thinking, only working with known quantities that keep us moving inside of known power structures continuing unsustainable ways of living and patterns of systemic oppression.


Third, our responses to these external forces through traditional activism are reactionary, meaning, we wait until a problem IS overwhelming our senses, time, and energies to acknowledge it, and then we protest, march, and express our outrage in social media campaigns. This sort of traditional activism has its place, but it is now how real change is made, according to our wayfinders’ stories.


Fourth, Existing institutional structures are usually too compromised, conflicted, and insular to fully embody new values and visions. Parallel structures are needed for this purpose.


And fifth, because our current culture expects for conformity, in-the-box thinking, and traditional reactionary after the fact activism, there is nothing new to integrate into the old way of being, thinking, and existing culturally.


This way of being, of waiting for the external forces to change and support individual and collective wellness, is no longer necessary. How did our wayfinders create change?

What Are Some of the Hallmarks of Successful Barrier-Breaking?

Where do most of our wayfinders begin? They begin by listening to inner guidance that questions and reenvisions the environment of their day to day lives. Cecilia Tomori questions her doctor’s advice on infant sleep and her questioning leads her, as she shares in her story, from zero understanding of breastfeeding to becoming a breastfeeding expert. 


When we follow a call to investigate and create a different reality for ourselves and others, this process is called Following, or Answering the Call, and is recognized as the beginning of a Hero’s Journey, a point of departure to a personal transformation in perception and awareness


The second hallmark is Divergent Thinking. Divergent thinking calls upon our capacity to think outside the box, to use our imaginations, and to see the big picture. Its counter point, Convergent Thinking, stays within known quantities, and is in alignment with most our Western values of conformity to avoid shaming, judgement, and devaluation.


The third hallmark is Kindred Activism. This theory of activism involves centering the needs of children in social change work, while valuing the inner skills of mindfulness and outer skills of relational activism. Kindred Activism is being developed and explored through Kindred World's Kindred Fellowship Program and has been feature in the past year in posts at Rutgers University’s Childism Institute and Riane Eisler’s Center for Partnership Studies.


The fourth hallmark of successful barrier breaking is the creation of a Parallel Structure, or an organizational structure that supports the embodiment of the values and vision of wayfinders who are following the call to create a new reality alongside the old reality and its structures. Examples of these parallel structures are La Leche League International, Attachment Parenting International, Reaching Our Sisters Everywhere, ROSE, Reaching Our Brothers Everywhere, ROBE, the new Indigenous Milk Medicine Week celebrations, and Kindred World's many initiatives supporting the vision of a Wisdom-based, Wellness-informed Society.


And finally, listen for how the new insight, communities, and vision are strategically Integrated into openings in the old reality, ideas, and structures. Sometimes in creative ways, like Darcia Narvaez’s new short film, Breaking the Cycle, which features forty years of integrated, siloed fields of science into a six-minute video. Or Cathleen O’Malley’s play, MilkDrunk, which addresses both her internal and external struggles with breastfeeding barriers.


All of our presenters address the opportunities awaiting us in our post-pandemic world, and how, with an understanding of the hallmarks of successful barrier breaking, we can be ready to introduce and integrate a new way forward.


Thank you, La Leche League International for the invitation to produce this oral history collection in celebration of your 65th Anniversary Conference!

Greetings Trance-breakers, Wayfinders, and New Cycle Makers!

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